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Lingering doubts about Obama’s birth certificate

Lingering doubts about Obama’s birth certificate

President Barack Obama's birth certificate is not without question.


POSTED September 23, 2015 9:26 a.m.

The media has criticized anyone who question Obama's birth certificate; but let's just look at the facts.

Fact: The first people to question Obama's birth certificate were Hillary Clinton supporters during the 2008 presidential campaign. They sent emails stating, "Barack Obama's mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there, and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth." This was verified by Snopes in April 2008.

Fact: The first lawsuit filed against Obama and the birth certificate was done by Philip J Berg, a self-avowed Democrat supporter of Hillary Clinton.

Fact: In January 2011, Neil Abercrombie, the newly-elected Democratic governor of Hawaii and friend of Obama, announced he wanted to put the issue to rest as to whether Obama was born in Hawaii or Kenya. Gov. Abercrombie announced he would produce the birth certificate and end the controversy. However, he later announced he couldn't locate any birth certificate or record of birth in any hospital in Hawaii, including a signature by any doctor.

Fact: No one has ever seen or verified Obama's birth certificate. When the White House produced a certificate of live birth on the White House website on April 27, 2011, the posted certificate had a totally different print stock than other birth certificates released during 1961 and there was no embossed seal on it, since only an "uncertified copy" was released. On May 1, 2011, computer science and document management expert witness, Ivan Zatkovich, studied the document released by the White House. Mr. Zatkovich stated that documents normally contain one layer of PDF, but Obama's copy had multiple layers of PDF, indicating it had been scanned multiple times, concluding it had been modified or edited in some fashion. His report concludes, "There is no specific evidence of how or why that content would have been changed, but the evidence clearly indicates that the document was changed."

Fact: President Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.'s grandmother and aunt admitted Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya on August 4, 1961 at Coast Provincial General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya, where Obama was born at 7:21 p.m. Four days later, his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth." Obama's mother originally attempted to fly to Hawaii prior to Obama being born but was denied the flight due to the fear of her pregnancy and the cabin pressure in the airplane.

Fact: Twin daughters born to Eleanor Nordyke on August 5, 1961 were assigned certificate numbers (151-61-10637 and 151-61-10638) that preceded the certificate number (151-61-10641) that was assigned to Barack Obama, even though he was supposedly born there on August 4, 1961.

Fact: A 2009 report in the Nigerian Observer lists Barack Obama as Kenyan-born.

Adding to the confusion is other documents which are either missing or which have never been seen including Obama's kindergarten and Punahou school records, which most likely would contain a copy of his birth certificate; his Occidental College records, which may show he attended there as a foreign exchange student since the Indonesian government doesn't recognize dual citizenships. Also missing are Obama's Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, legislative and scheduling records from his years as an Illinois state senator, Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records are all unavailable, mysteriously "lost," or sealed from the public. Furthermore, Barack Obama admittedly traveled to Pakistan in 1981 or 1982 when, during those years, U.S. citizens carrying U.S. passports were prohibited from entering Pakistan.

If anyone wants to dispute these facts, please only do so by using facts.

 

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9 comments
DaveB: 1 year, 9 months ago

Another note-- you referred to Obama's Occidental College records, which may show he attended there as a foreign exchange student since the Indonesian government doesn't recognize dual citizenships." The foreign-student-at-Occidental story started with an April Fools Day joke in 2009, and has no other basis at all.
The point about how "the Indonesian government doesn't recognize dual citizenships" doesn't make any sense, because the United States-- that's this country right here, you know, the one Obama's the President of-- doesn't allow little children, like Obama was when he was in Indonesia, to renounce their US citizenship. No one else can renounce any individual's US citizenship on their behalf.


DaveB: 1 year, 9 months ago

You go on about a list of records which you speculate might include as-yet-unrevealed information. How, pray tell, would "Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago," and "medical records, legislative and scheduling records from his years as an Illinois state senator, Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records"-- and the records of an imaginary adoption-- be relevant to his eligibility? If I recall correctly, that laundry list originated in a satirical article about the ludicrous fishing expeditions birthers insisted on instead of just accepting the fact of a well-authenticated Hawaii birth.

You conclude,
"Furthermore, Barack Obama admittedly traveled to Pakistan in 1981 or 1982 when, during those years, U.S. citizens carrying U.S. passports were prohibited from entering Pakistan."
US citizens carrying US passports have NEVER been prohibited from entering Pakistan.


DaveB: 1 year, 9 months ago

"A 2009 report in the Nigerian Observer lists Barack Obama as Kenyan-born."
So...you claim that forty-eight years after the fact, a newspaper on the other side of Africa said Obama was born in Kenya...and this is supposed to be persuasive? In 1948, if you will recall, the Chicago Tribune listed Dewey as the winner of the presidential election. And in 1961, two local newspapers-- the Honolulu Advertiser and Star Bulletin-- published notices from the State Department of Health listing Barack Obama as Hawaii-born.
Oh, and there's a February 6, 1990, New York Times article on Obama's election as President of the Harvard Law Review which states "Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii."


DaveB: 1 year, 9 months ago

"Twin daughters born to Eleanor Nordyke on August 5, 1961 were assigned certificate numbers (151-61-10637 and 151-61-10638) that preceded the certificate number (151-61-10641) that was assigned to Barack Obama, even though he was supposedly born there on August 4, 1961."
The birth certificates were alphabetically sorted by name and numbered at the end of the month. "O" comes after "N." True fact, that.


DaveB: 1 year, 9 months ago

"President Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.'s grandmother and aunt admitted Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya on August 4, 1961 at Coast Provincial General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya, where Obama was born at 7:21 p.m. Four days later, his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth." Obama's mother originally attempted to fly to Hawaii prior to Obama being born but was denied the flight due to the fear of her pregnancy and the cabin pressure in the airplane."
That's pure fabrication. There was no such "admission"; Obama's grandmother and aunt-- what's her name, by the way?-- never said he was born anywhere other than Hawaii. The whole "born in Kenya" scenario is absurdly implausible.


DaveB: 1 year, 9 months ago

"On May 1, 2011, computer science and document management expert witness, Ivan Zatkovich, studied the document released by the White House. Mr. Zatkovich stated that documents normally contain one layer of PDF, but Obama's copy had multiple layers of PDF, indicating it had been scanned multiple times, concluding it had been modified or edited in some fashion. His report concludes, "There is no specific evidence of how or why that content would have been changed, but the evidence clearly indicates that the document was changed.""
Zatkovich did NOT state that the layers indicated that the image "had been scanned multiple times." In fact, he concluded that
"Because the internal creation and modification dates are the same, it can be concluded that the file was created in one session, not created and then modified with the overlays at a later time,"
adding the caveat
"This does not preclude the possibility that the scanning and overlays were prepared separately and merged together in this single session."
In the summary of his analysis, Zatkovich stated:
"1. The Hawaii Department of Health stated that they have a record of the birth certificate of Barak Obama.
2. A certificate was produced by the State of Hawaii and copied onto green safety paper, as per normal procedure.
3. The ‘Green copy’ was then scanned, presumably by the White House, to produce a PDF document.
4. The PDF document was then modified in some fashion (e.g. layers, white halo)."
He then states that
"All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document."


DaveB: 1 year, 9 months ago

"When the White House produced a certificate of live birth on the White House website on April 27, 2011, the posted certificate had a totally different print stock than other birth certificates released during 1961 and there was no embossed seal on it, since only an "uncertified copy" was released."
The Certificate of Live Birth shown on the White House website is a certified true copy, produced by the Department of Health on April 25, 2011, on new safety paper. It bears a state seal, and State Registrar Alvin T. Onaka's signature stamp certifying that it is a true copy of the record on file in the Department of Health.


DaveB: 1 year, 9 months ago

"No one has ever seen or verified Obama's birth certificate."
That one's downright bizarre. The Hawaii State Department of Health has repeatedly verified the accuracy and authenticity of the birth certificates shown on the White House website. Official verifications were issued to the Secretaries of State of Kansas and Arizona, and to the US District Court for the Southern District of Mississippi. Published correspondence between the White House and the Hawaii State Department of Health describes how the President requested and obtained two copies of his long form birth certificate from the Department of Health. And one of those copies was shown to the press at the April 27, 2011, White House press conference.


DaveB: 1 year, 9 months ago

I can certainly dispute what you've posted with facts-- because your "facts" are a mess. It's true that some Clinton supporters were birthers, and it's true that Phil Berg filed an eligibility challenge. After that, you pretty much go off the rails. I'll address these claims piecemeal in succeeding comments. Down the line--
"In January 2011, Neil Abercrombie announced he would produce the birth certificate and end the controversy. However, he later announced he couldn't locate any birth certificate or record of birth in any hospital in Hawaii, including a signature by any doctor."
That didn't happen. A journalist, Mike Evans, made some off-the-cuff remarks roughly to that effect and later retracted them. Under Hawaii state law, the governor has no access to, or control over access to, Hawaii's vital records.



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